For the last few weeks I’ve been super busy with school work, but I’ve still managed to make time for climbing on the weekends. Two weeks ago a group of 10 of us made our way down to Tieton, and last weekend we rolled 14 deep at Vantage. It was actually really nice hanging out in a big group, there were plenty of ropes to hop on and lots of wood to feed to the fire.
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| Joe flashing a really good 10c at Vantage |
In Tieton I definitely felt like I was filling in the gaps in my guidebook, doing the climbs I’d overlooked before. At Lava Point I finished up a couple of routes I’d skipped over in the past, so now I have the crag ticked which is a little sad knowing there’s no new routes for me to do on this awesome wall, dream wall nearby just doesn’t compare. I also climbed at The Chunkyard for the first time, a crag so new it there were some guys bolting a route on it out left as we were there. The rock doesn’t look the most appealing but it is actually pretty fun climbing. I’m getting to the point at a lot of crags in Tieton where I’m running out of new routes to try. I repeated a few routes, but I don’t get the same enjoyment from repeating routes as I do from climbing something for the first time, partially because I know its not contributing to my long term goal of climbing 10,000 routes. But its something that I probably have to get over if I’m going to climbing at the same crags in Washington. I actually think there is a lot of potential for new routes at Tieton. There is so much rock there, not all of it is solid, and some of it would be a bit of a hike, but I’ve got a feeling there are a few quality crags still waiting to be discovered there, particularly sport routes. Just walking around the Cave area, which is one of the more popular areas I could see potential for new routes. I would love to get a drill and put up my own routes sometime, for now the cost of it and the time involved seems prohibitive.
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| Not sure what climb this is, they all seem to blend together |
At Vantage there are a lot more routes to get on, so even though I’ve already done a lot there, there is still plenty to get on. On Saturday I teamed up with Joe, we got an early start and before we knew it we had climbed 6 routes and it was only 10am. We figured we’d try to keep up the pace and see how many we could rack up. Fatigue caused by the blazing sun and running out of water slowed us down towards the end of the day, but we still managed 19 routes that day, 16 of which I had never done before, I onsighted or flashed them all including a few trad/mixed routes. My previous record was 13 routes in a day at Post Falls last year. It was one of my best climbing days in a while, Joe and I seemed well matched in terms of our drive to get a lot of mileage in. We were talking about how at the right crag, and with the right preparation 30 routes in a day is probably possible. Laura had a pretty good day flashing another 5.11, to add to her long list, she did a couple in Tieton the week before as well. We topped it off with a big fire, some music and a lot beer. Sunday was understandably a little more subdued, but I still managed to get a good amount of climbing in, including a few 5.11s at the awesome Jigsaw wall. The warm-up Jigsaw Direct may be the best route I’ve done at Vantage, I’d highly recommend it. On the way back we stopped by a brewpub for a well deserved meal, we were all glowing from a great weekend outside in the sun. I tried to absorb as much sun as I could that weekend since I don’t think I’ll make it outside climbing for a few weeks, I’ve got way too much schoolwork to do. But in just a month I’ll be graduating with my Masters degree which is pretty exciting/scary.
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| About to head home after an awesome weekend at Vantage |
9 comments:
Hey Dom,
My name is Mike and I live in Yakima. I met you in Tensleep along with some other Yakima climbers. I read your blog from time to time and I believe I have noticed a pattern in the past year or two. It seems after you visit an area in the Tieton there are numerous tick marks all over the climbs. Not only are there tick marks but they seem to be on holds that are no brainers in my mind and they are obnoxiously big. I don't want to get in a big ethical debate over the validity of tick marks because I have and still use them when i feel they are absolutely necessary but I believe I speak for the majority of tieton locals when I say they detract from the beauty of the route. Now I know Tieton stone isn't a beautiful limestone crag in the South of France but it is a beautiful piece of local stone near and dear to our hearts. I guess I just ask to not tick up everything and if you must then please take the time to brush them off. If I am wrong about this then I apologize.
Hi Mike, yep I remember you guys from Tensleep. I think your barking up the wrong tree though, I'm not a big fan of tick marks either, in fact last trip to Vantage I felt like I was robbed of an onsight of the route 'The Creation of Tranquility' because of obnoxiously large tick marks.
What specific routes have you seen these ticks on? I'd be happy to let you know if we were on them. I only tend to use tick marks on hard redpoints which I haven't done in a while now. I can't speak for the rest of my group, but I would be surprised if they are leaving big marks up. However I'm sure the combined chalk of 10 people climbing the same route adds up. I'll definately be more aware of this in the future. I agree with you that the beauty of the routes at Tieton is worth protecting.
Dom,
I appologize for the accusations. I guess it started when there were tick marks on trigger finger and then we met in Tensleep. I read your blog sometime after that and found out you guys were on it. Recently I saw a lot of tick marks at lavapoint and it was after you had been there this last time. Lavapoint was more chalked up than I have ever seen it. I'm sorry if I drew a conclusion which is not true.
I appreciate your comments about the Tieton. The Tieton has (for the most part) maintained a high standard and I want to do my part to make sure it is not tarnished.
Thanks for the response Dom.
Hi Mike,
I totally know what you mean about Tieton. Literally crawling with ticks! I found at least 4 on me last time I was there, gross!!
If the rock was easy to read it wouldn't be such a problem. Be forewarned the 13c at honey comb buttress will be over ticked. Just a warning... ;)
P.S. any other 13s bolted yet? That would be sweet~!!!!!
I disagree to an extent. Yes a whopping 4in white streak to jug is a little overkill. But ticking the good spot with a little white dot is fine IMO for a hard sport route where it is crucial to hit each hold just right to flash/send the line. If ya don't want the lines to be forgotten and crusty they need the chalk to get people on them and stay in there pristine, chalked and climbable condition.
I don't think a route is going to get forgotten and crusty just because it doesn't have tickmarks. In fact I think some people may avoid overly ticked routes as it can take away from the next experience, especially if you're hoping to onsight it. At the end of the day, its not that hard to brush off the ticks.
I've been thinking a lot about the Honeycomb project, want to get down there the weekend of the 4th jimmy?
BTW, the honeycomb project is not 13c and even that doesn't need tick marks. There arn't that many holds on it.
Jimmy,
I agree tick marks are appropriate in some cases especially if you want to flash a route or if a certain hold needs to be hit in a particular way. I guess we are just looking at it from different perspectives. I don't get as much satisfaction if a route is all ticked up regardless if I get a flash, onsight or a repeat. I would rather have the pure onsight or take an extra go or two. Like I previously stated, I have and will probably us tick marks but I will make my best effort brush them off. I just think marking climbs had gotten out of hand. This is my personal opinion and I'm sure a lot will disagree. Anyway I'm glad you guys enjoy the Tieton.
PS, I was the one who wrote the previous post. There are no more bolted 5.13s on the tieton....yet. I have my eye on a couple. The location will only be revealed to climbers who don't use tick marks. :).
There is the project at the cave which the guidebook gives 5.12b or something. That rig is super hard and nobody has even done the moves. The upper roof might not go (from what I hear). I've only played on the bottom.
Mike
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